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|0002657||5 - Closed w/o Action||Enhancement||public||2018-04-06 04:13||2020-07-12 21:47|
|Summary||0002657: Request: option to turn off Tool Tips|
The way I look at it is the buttons already tell me what the function is. I don't need a popup getting the way of what I can already see. Plus, if the tip pops up over the button I want to click on, it gets in the way - prevents me from clicking... I have defined quite a few buttons with macros, so the button I have defined for, let's say, turning on the RIT (clearly says RIT ON on the button face) the tool tip says something like "Defines as RIT ON" (or something like that - I'm at work right now and can't see the actual tip) - I find this to be really annoying
|Additional Information||Ticket #158237 |
Initially, the customer asked turning them off in Rig Control
Would be better to implement this in all applications.
There seems to be an option in logbook to turn them off (see screenshot)
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|related to||0003256||feedback||2 - Next Dev List (Holding Area)||What is the minimum screen size (in pixels) that HRD supports?|
|has duplicate||0003031||closed||WA9PIE||5 - Closed w/o Action||Add option to disable tool tips in Rig Control|
|has duplicate||0003246||closed||5 - Closed w/o Action||V184.108.40.206 Need way to turn off Tooltips in Rig Control|
|related to||0003411||closed||PD9FER||5 - Closed w/o Action||Add option to turn off tool tips in Rig Control app|
|related to||0003412||closed||PD9FER||5 - Closed w/o Action||Add option to turn off tool tips in DM780 application|
|related to||0003413||closed||PD9FER||5 - Closed w/o Action||Add an option to turn off tool tips in Logbook application|
|related to||0003414||closed||PD9FER||5 - Closed w/o Action||Add an option to Satellite Tracking to turn off tool tips in the application|
|related to||0003415||closed||PD9FER||5 - Closed w/o Action||Add an option to HRD Rotator to turn off tool tips in the application|
|related to||0003416||closed||PD9FER||5 - Closed w/o Action||Add an option to the Mapper application to turn off tool tips in the application|
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Seems like we need to do a little bit of specification to get this fixed: specifically which tool tips should be configurable?
I think there are three groups of tool tips in the application. One is shown on menu items when the mouse is hovered over them. Another group is attached to toolbar buttons, and appears when the mouse is hovered over those. A third is over the radio controls themselves -- anything in the radio view.
Are there other groups? Different ways to identify groups of buttons? Which do we want to be able to enable or disable?
|Also, if we want to do this for all applications, it would be best to open a Mantis issue for each application. The scope for each application would be different depending on the design of the application and the desired effect of the feature in that application.|
Just have a option in all applications to turn Tool Tips off
That will be sufficient enough.
So disable all Hover over txt when disabled,
||The closed 0003246 has some more additional info regarding Tool Tips covering up Buttons, rendering them inusable|
In the Triage meeting of 2019-03-21, we identified a couple questions:
There was some question about other applications having an option to hide tooltips, but nobody was sure if it did or not. It would help to know if other applications do (or don't) have those options, and the location of that option in each app.
The scope of this issue is also unclear. Is it to fix Rig Control (as in the title) or "all applications" (as in comment #7683)?
In the Triage meeting of 2019-03-28, we agreed that Ferry would find answers to the above questions. I've re-written them here for clarity:
1) Are there other applications in the suite which have an option to disable tooltips for that application? If so, where are those options found, and in which applications. It helps to affirmatively indicate the absence of such an option.
2) Are we intending to switch of all tool tips, suite-wide, from one setting? Or is the intention that each application has itso wn option, local to that application, to switch off tool tips for the application?
3) If we're considering turning off tool-tips for other applications, we should consider scope for those applications, as well. (That is, the same question as comment #7210 applies for each application. Every tool tip? Just ones in certain windows? A set of options for each group of tool tips? Something else ... ?)
|Are you making progress on answering these questions, Ferry? It's been about four months since the last update.|
||I think I have told already to make it an option in all suites to turn off Tool Tips|
|That answers #1 and #2. What about #3?|
First of all, we do not need to turn the Tooltips Off. We need a toggle between Show and Hide (enable/disable)
This should be selectable in every app of the suite.
In my opinion a Tooltip is a Tooltip, so this applies to All Tooltips.
> First of all, we do not need to turn the Tooltips Off. We need a toggle between Show and Hide
Yes, I think that's true -- despite the title of this issue and the nomenclature used in previous comments.
> In my opinion a Tooltip is a Tooltip, so this applies to All Tooltips.
I think it's pretty obvious that tool tips are used for different reasons in different parts of each application. If we want to treat them all as one for the scope of this feature, we can do that, though.
We still have the outstanding question in 7715 (repeated in 7786): are there other applications in the suite which already have the option to disable tool tips? In the team calls, the claim was made that there was already such an option. I can't seem to find it. If we can confirm such an option doesn't exist, then we can just code this feature from scratch. If the option already exists, then we should find that option and make the new code look like and behave like the old code.
Once we can answer that question, I think we can start writing code.
||The only one Tooltip toggle I found are at Logbook in the ALE under Options (see the 1st reply)|
OK, I think we've got enough information to proceed.
This is a lot of work, spread out across each of the apps. I'm closing this issue and I've opened individual Mantis issues for each application so we can readily track and prioritize the work.
||We are going to discuss in Support|
In the team call on 2019-08-08, we had decided to close this issue after discovering that there already was a way to hide the menu bar and tool bar tool tips in Rig Control, and the tool bar tool tips in most other apps. We also though adding this option was too much work for each application (a day or two, each) when there were few requests for the option, and when there seemed to be some misunderstanding in the ticket.
Since then, Ferry decided that the issue warrented more discussion among the support team, so it is now assigned to him pending the outcome of those discussions.
Turns out the applications already do have a mechanism to stop the display of some tool tips:
1) Start up Rig Control
2) Connect to a radio -- DemoMatic is fine
3) Right-click in an unoccupied area of the toolbar dock
4) In thee resulting context menu, click "Customize..."
5) This results in a "Customize" dialog. In that property sheet, activate the "Options" property page
6) Mark (or unmark) the "Show ScreenTips on toolbars" box to disable the display of tool tips in the tool bars
A similar option exists for the menu bar:
7) Cancel the "Customize" dialog
8) Right-click in an unoccupied area of the menu bar
9) In thee resulting context menu, click "Customize..."
10) Activate the "Options" tab in the sheet in the "Customize" dialog
11) Use the "Show ScreenTips on toolbars" box to control the display of tool tips.
Had conversation with the Team.
Since there only are two Requests for this feature, I recommend to close it as won't fix (yet)
If more requests are getting in, we always can reconsider.
For now, Close with Won't Fix
|2018-04-06 04:13||PD9FER||New Issue|
|2018-04-06 04:13||PD9FER||File Added: image.png|
||Relationship added||has duplicate 0003031|
||Note Added: 0007210|
||Assigned To||=> PD9FER|
||Status||new => feedback|
||Note Added: 0007211|
|2019-03-13 15:51||PD9FER||Note Added: 0007683|
||Relationship added||has duplicate 0003246|
|2019-03-21 15:30||PD9FER||Note Added: 0007714|
|2019-03-21 15:32||WA9PIE||Assigned To||PD9FER => K7ZCZ|
||Note Added: 0007715|
||Assigned To||K7ZCZ => PD9FER|
||Relationship added||related to 0003256|
||Note Added: 0007786|
||Note Added: 0008266|
|2019-07-25 14:42||PD9FER||Note Added: 0008268|
||Note Added: 0008274|
|2019-07-26 03:33||PD9FER||Note Added: 0008281|
||Note Added: 0008290|
|2019-07-29 02:14||PD9FER||Note Added: 0008292|
||Relationship added||related to 0003411|
||Relationship added||related to 0003412|
||Relationship added||related to 0003413|
||Relationship added||related to 0003414|
||Relationship added||related to 0003415|
||Relationship added||related to 0003416|
||Note Added: 0008306|
||Status||feedback => resolved|
||Resolution||open => won't fix|
||Testing||=> Not Started|
|2019-08-08 14:34||PD9FER||Note Added: 0008338|
||Note Added: 0008345|
||Note Added: 0008346|
|2019-08-09 16:28||PD9FER||Note Added: 0008349|
||Status||resolved => closed|
|2019-09-14 01:59||WA9PIE||Project||1 - Backlog => 5 - Closed w/o Action|
|2020-07-12 21:47||WA9PIE||Severity||minor => feature|